Who else thinks Thomas Vanek is a pansy?

i am a sabres fan and i HATE watching him, he has so many turnovers and avoids contact all the time. Also he tries fancy moves but does not come through ever, especially on shootouts.

Who else thinks Thomas Vanek is a pansy?
I'm a Sabres fan too. Vanek isn't the size of Dainius Zubrus, so he's not gonna chase after someone. He does try fancy moves, and if you don't try something, you won't get as many goals. What you didn't mention is Vanek is one of the best players in the NHL in front of the goalie, so, who cares how he plays. He has like 34 goals, he's good. He's doesn't know how to deke. And for the fancy moves part, you see TONS of players who never do anything fancy try to do something. The more you try it, the better you get at it. The better you get at it, the better you become. The better you become at it, the more you can do it. The more you can do it, the more you can have the momentum to deke out the goalie. Plus Vanek leads the lead with a +/- of 40.. 40. Over who? NICKLAS LIDSTROM. When you are ahead of Nicklas Lidstrom in +/-, you can't EVER be doing bad, because Lidstrom is the best defensive player in the league, along with Pronger in my opinion.
Reply:Abraham Lincoln
Reply:Does it really matter if they are pansies or not as long as we are winning......WTF Sabres fans usually have alot more pride in there team
Reply:I disagree. He is our leading goal scorer and he has improved a lot from last year being on the bench for most of the playoffs. Yes he tries all these moves...but so does Max doesnt he...and no one hates Max. You cant do the same move EVERY time in a shootout and expect to score. Once he actually starts getting his moves together..hell score and no one will complain anymore. it just takes time hes still a young player being a 2nd year player on the NHL.
Reply:If your a real Sabres fan you would not have said that. He's a pansy? Are you kidding? He tries to make plays, and most of the time he does, like Stafford's first goal last night, he totally set that one up for him. And if you haven't noticed, the past few games he's been more physical, especially when forechecking. But his job isn't to run around and hit people, it's to score goals and make plays...which is exactly why he leads the team in goals and leads the NHL in plus/minus. Yeah a forward leads the NHL in plus/minus...and you call him a pansy? Good luck with that...
Reply:yeah! he stinks!
Reply:I think Afinogenov was worse in his younger days . . . man that guy used to drive me crazy! Right now my least favorite guy on the team is Ryan Miller; I'm just not sold on him like most other people are. I want Marty back!
Reply:Yes he is, but to be fair, I think that the whole roster is full of pansies. Not trying to be funny either. They are all soft with maybe the exception of Peters but hey, that's what you get when your team is chalked full of midgets.
Reply:Vanek is looking at many of his teamates get injured being physical. so he may have the mind set if he stays layed back and like a pansy, he may not get hurt. That how i started out playing in High School, then i bulked up and didnt give a crap about getting hurt, and just checked everyone I could.
Reply:i love vanek. he's our leading goal scorer. that kind of shows you that he is NOT a pansy. and people are just jealous cause our "midget" guys ,as one put it, can move faster than their big guys.
Reply:your point is? could you do better?he would not have made them team if he couldn't be a team player!
Reply:He may be but that is his game. He is not supposed to be tough. That is why Mair and Peters are on the roster. His job is to finish and he has done that. They are not paying him to be tough, because if they were, he would be sent to Rochester.

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