Sunday, May 16, 2010

Do you really approve of the United States President telling a bold face lie to start a war?

and attacking another country for religious purposes and then taking away all of our constitutional rights and freedoms based on a so called war on terrorism? Can we really approve of that and did we actually capture any of the so called terrorist or are they getting stronger and stronger behind our backs and still in hiding? So where is the President where is the leadership of America? Should we continue to even call this America since it does not seem to respect its own constitution any longer? I wonder? How can we win under these circumstances what is it that we are winning? If we lose in Iraq why can't they can blame Bush? How can we win, but if we win why will they will look like pansy's, and who are the pansy's is this just some so called right wing christian fundamental propagandic stand?

Do you really approve of the United States President telling a bold face lie to start a war?
War sucks is all I can say. And lies are bad no matter what the reason.
Reply:Well I do not agree with you totally. I mean we are facing a new enemy who really has no face and uses a countries securities and rights to try and impose their own. I do think that at the onset of the war in Iraq many people fealty that Sodom Hussein could not be trusted. The UN was doing nothing about fixing the problem then once we get in there we see that many of the high ups in the UN were making illegal deals with Hussein. That explains why the UN was not doing anything about him. Now we are in their and trying to help set up a government of the people and Iran and many other Islamic nations fear that. They want Iraq to be an Islamic state with Islamic law. That means no real education for women, and keeping them out of government and the say so as to what goes on in their own land. It is now a well known fact that Iran is supplying arms and money to the insurgents. Many of whom have been brained washed into thinking that if they strap a bomb on them and walk into a group of people they will go to heaven and then be allowed to fornicate with their 70 virgins. This has gone from a war that started over human rights to a war over religion and a religious group trying to take control as it once did in Afghanistan. We should support the Iraq government though we may not always see eye to eye with them we should support them. It is time to begin bringing our boy home and force them to fight for their own freedom however. The war was started by very bad CIA intelligent which is a shame. But we are there now, the last thing I want to see happen to those poor people is to be killed off hundreds at a time if a group like the Taliban were to take over. We are trying to set up a free and independent Iraq. A government that will not kill and abuse it's own people. One where Islamic law will not have a woman stoned to death if she shows to much of her ankles. I think and I feel that any reasonable person should agree that since we are there we should make it a safe and strong nation. One with laws and one where no religion dominates all the others and forbids any other religion except that of Islam. So while I agree that the reason we are their was bad and misleading thanks to our CIA friends, we should be their now. We can hopefully build an Iraq that is safe not just for men but women, and children to.
Reply:"iraqi oil will pay for the war"
Reply:Those who did and still do are the sad population segment in our country.





They will never admit they are wrong, just like GWB never did.





But, after 08, this will all change. Can't wait to see the show getting started.
Reply:people in life tend to get more Conservative as they get older. this is not because they get older, it's because they have more life experiences and are able to see through BS. Give it another 20 years and you will see it differently
Reply:Another angry liberal who feels guilty about being an American. Take a number and file to the end of the line.
Reply:I don't approve, but I'm not one of the morons defending bush.
Reply:Of course not..... maybe the Twin Tower Event wasn't his fault; however, the remaining and the current war are his faults (duh.... the America captured the person who's responsible for Twin Tower Event already, so why the soldiers are still in there? It's a done deal already, so there aren't any reasons why the soldiers have to keep fighting); the soldiers have to keep fighting because he's aiming at the oils and making profits from it ...... Not to mention the other things that he's done so far (I wonder what else he can do before he leaves).....
Reply:How is life on planet clueless? Stay away from the loony websites. They are messing with your mind.
Reply:Why would'nt I approve of it?


We have to fight terrorests over there so we dont' have to fight them over hear.





They will follow us we cant' just leave them.


Bush have saved MILLIONS of lives by going into Iraq and liberating those people.





We have to stay the corse for however long it takes untill all the terror is gone wiped clean from the globe for good.





Liebrals want us to loose and we cant except defete we have to keep fighting.
Reply:I will never approve of this president that was appointed by the US supreme Court and not not voted into office by the people.
Reply:First of all, name me one Constitutional right YOU have lost. I'm not worried about mercenaries at Gitmo - let's talk about YOU. And WTF do you mean this war is for religious purposes? I thought it was about oil? Damn it - I can't keep up with the leftist talking points.





And WHO lied?!?





"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.





"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.





"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."


Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.





"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998





"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."


Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.





"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."


Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.





"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."


Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.





"There is no doubt that... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."


Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.





"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."


Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.





"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."


Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.





"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."


Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.





"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is using and developing weapons of mass destruction."


Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.





"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."


Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.





"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."


Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.





"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."


Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,





"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."


Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.





"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."


Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002





"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...


Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.
Reply:I am waiting for him to "put food on our family"
Reply:well being a proud young american im proud to say that some one is looking out for my future and my childerns future even if there was no weapons or what not you cant have crazy *** cults or whatever you want to call them going around threating life wake the hell up if we didnt invade we would have more mother f*uckers over here blowing us up for no reason what so ever i mean if you like to sit back and try to promote peace im down with that but terrorist arent buying peace if your tring to sell it to them thats why you need to send a strong message the only thing terrorist are buying is bombs and weapons to create hell and your down with that?
Reply:Dont listen to these "I love America" bullshitters, America is in a war for oil, accept it everyone please. We are not in war against a religion, and not against terrorists, and not against opression. It is for power, money, and oil! As long as America doesnt move into Iran (sadly I know they will) I am fine.
Reply:Bush is a retard, we're all aware of this obvious fact. I am not American, but I did spend a few years living in the USA.


I feel sorry for many of the good citizens of the USA, because they really deserve better than what they currently have.


The American people are great people for the most part, but I noticed severe right wing censorship forced upon it's people by politicians, media and even it's educational system. This is why some Americans are totally blind as to what's really going on in other parts of the world. Though when stumped on something, many will tell you it's because they don't care, or it's insignificant to them. For instance, how many Americans are taught in school of how Canadians kicked their butts during the war of 1812. To this day, if you peel away the lower section of the White house, you'll find charcoal. This is from the Canadians burning it to to it's foundations. They don't teach that in American schools.





Americans should be proud, because they have achieved many great things. It's just too bad their schools don't tell you about all the lying, cheating, death and destruction their Government has caused.





Here's my analogy on the events leading up to the attacks on Sept 11; The US government and it's foreign policies have behaved like a school yard bully for many years now, pushing all the smaller kids around. Then one day, one of the smaller kids gets pissed off. He'll never stand a chance against the big bully all by himself in a face to face confrontation, so he sneaks up behind him with a rock and smashes the bully in the back of the head, and knocks him out cold (9-11). When the bully wakes up, he really doesn't think very clear, partly from shock and partly from anger. Also, the bully has made so many enemies on the school playground over the years, he has a hard time figuring out just who is responsible for this sneak attack.


I think when Bush went into Afghanistan, he should have stayed and finished the job he started. I'm sure many will agree with this. My 19 year old nephew was killed over there last September trying to finish what Bush had no interest in finishing.





I am Canadian, and served in the gulf with my younger brother who was killed in action in 1991. We fought side by side with our American brothers and the other 30 plus members of the coalition.


My Father served in the Korean war, and my Grandfather served in WW 2 from 1939-45, and my grandfathers two older brothers served in the 1st world war.


I have a difficult time with some of these American 'armchair critics' I've met online over the years. They seem to think that because Canada has not totally supported them in recent years during the Bush administration, that somehow we have no honor or courage. The fact that the US needs to be engaged in a war continuously has nothing to do with courage or honor, and more to do with stupidity and greed. Though they use excuses like, "oh we must protect our country against communists", and "oh, we must invade Iraq and destroy their weapons of mass destruction". The sad thing is, many Americans have believed all of the lies that their government has told them through the years.


So now G.W Bush has got himself into a terrible mess. I have never supported anything that moron has done, and I applaud my country for not always bending over to the American shaft, the way some countries like Great Britain have done.


If you look to our past, you'll see the Americans weren't there to help much of the world during the 1st world war, until the last 6 months of that conflict. Or even WW 2 for that matter, until a couple years into that conflict. The coalition asked for their help, but the Americans wanted no part of it. Not until Pearl Harbor. Sure, they did speed up the end to WW2, but at what cost?


I think the American government is a joke, and the American people should be ashamed of George W Bush.





I hate to sound like an American basher, because I am not. My wife is American, and I have many American friends


I really have a problem with the way the US government has conducted itself around the globe regarding foreign policies then and now.


So I do not approve. Why should I support a fool and his tyrannical decisions? Maybe we should have handled things the same way the US government did in the 1st and 2nd world wars, "We won't get involved until we're attacked, or our interests are at stake"...No, I think we're better than that, and here's proof, we've been in Afghanistan fighting since the aftermath of 9-11. Ever since your crazy Texan leader fled to go and fight an imaginary war in Iraq, which has now turned out to be all too real!


I am Canadian, and damn proud of it!


Who will G.W Bush decide to invade next?? Canada?? He probably would, if he could find it!
Reply:Why do you liberals feel so guilty being Americans?

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